Posts by Half banana

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That's it! The Jesus stories are most reasonably explained as myth. History makes this obvious.

by Island Man in

a careful examination of the historical pagan religious context existing at the time of the genesis of christianity leads any reasonable person to conclude that jesus is just another one of several similar myths.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7teoa9ark.

Half banana

There is no point arguing with a Christian apologetic who uses the traditional assertions of a human christ and his resurrection as base line facts. Let me suggest the sociological approach to interpreting what people did in the Levant two thousand years ago is outlined in "A short history of Christianity by JM Robertson."

The real understanding of the Christ story pre-dates (as I indicated) the folk accounts of the pre-christian christs and comes from the pre-literate mnemonics of "star talk". The explanations of what the heavenly bodies were up to in their annual circumnavigation of planet earth from a pre-Copernican viewpoint.

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Almost 60 years ago, The Watchtower made a prediction that has proven to be amazingly accurate.

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i haven't posted for quite awhile, just usually lurk, but thought surely someone would have noticed this on jw.org.

this was under the article about distractions.

i clicked on the article and below is the "accurate" prediction that the wt made back in 1958. this has to prove they have jehovah's backing, don't you think?

Half banana

Hardly prophetic! Sorry, but nothing the WT says is ever of any use.

Mental health warning: Watching JW org information can result in damage to your brain.

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The Borg going out of biz or a ruze, a time line.

by Crazyguy in

when one connects the dots it's very intriguing.

i don't have all the details or in order but here's just some of the events.

2008 global financial melt down.

Half banana

I agree with you Crazy guy with the telling symptoms you have observed.

I think the trend as seen most carefully by those who watch them closely (us)...is that they have peaked and are now on a decline.

Everything is against them:

1/ Apparent serious and long-term cash-flow crisis.

2/ The general decline in Christian belief in the West and a tendency towards a private, personal spirituality.

3/ Their loss of income from their historical source of revenue namely printing.

4/ The openness and transparency of internet information which easily exposes cultic behaviour especially to newly contacted people.

5/ Negative publicity regarding child abuse cases and their attempt to keep their name clean at the expense of, and with total indifference to the welfare for the abused.

6/ The total failure of their most cherished eighty year long hope in the arrival of Armageddon within the life- span of the generation who saw 1914.

7/ The attempt to explain away their failure of the 1914 generation doctrine with their ludicrous "overlapping generations".

8/ The increasing loss of faith in the decisions of the GB resulting in a reluctance to contribute financially or by deserting the organisation completely.

(Please add if you can think of other ideas or better ones).

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Reasons for leak and building stop story

by Gorbatchov in

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i have some feeling about the am2015 leak and the recent building stop story going arround.. it wouldn't surprise me that the information is a calculated leak.. - jw's are informal informed about the changes and adopt them informal.. - the building stop influences the concience of jw's for donating more money.. at the other hand, maybe there has occured a financial disaster for example they invested bilions in volkswagen.. gorby.

Half banana

I have an inkling that they are already preparing for functioning fully on a commercial model rather than a charitable status.

A KH attendee friend of mine (a JW but non-believer) heard from the platform in the UK that in future new congregations will start out as non-charitable, tax paying enterprises! The approved new designs for KHs certainly look like unlovely, utilitarian commercial "units" rather than traditional places for worship.

Doomsday cults have built into them a limited shelf life, one way for their puppeteers to keep possession of the the money would be to morph into a more honest commercial business such as property development and as the true believers fall away, eventually ditch the religious nonsense. What would they care as long as they controlled the cash?

A paradigm for this would be in the fall of communism in Soviet Russia; it was the old party leaders and their friends who became the fabulously wealthy oligarchs in their new sham democracy.

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All must be ready to obey...

by Half banana in

in view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten armageddon, i think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

by dripping these creepy injunctions into the watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the jw, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?......

jw tv broadcast july 2017.

Half banana

I'm with you Finky baby! and I'm wondering whether some of the elite are waking up too...

But still, where is it now leading?

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RE: Appropriate attire for graduation ceremony

by Lied2NoMore in

will the branch send out a letter to address appropriate attire for the worldwide graduation from .

"the school that no one ever graduates from"?.

i have been thinking of the endless ways this new direction for the tms termination screams for criticism.. i am sure a quick publication search will reveal several references gushing at how great of an invention the tms was, how it has benefitted jw's, you know, gush, gush, greatest thing since sliced bread, blah, blah, blah.... i'm not interesting in looking at the moment, but wasn't knorr credited with its invention and rollout?.

Half banana

I love the idea of discussing the holy artwork as well as the Bible. Is this for the growing and much commended illiteracy among JWs?

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All must be ready to obey...

by Half banana in

in view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten armageddon, i think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

by dripping these creepy injunctions into the watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the jw, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?......

jw tv broadcast july 2017.

Half banana

In view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten Armageddon, I think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

By dripping these creepy injunctions into the Watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the JW, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?.....

JW TV broadcast July 2017

“The time has come when all of us will have our loyalty put to the test. The Faithful Slave has lovingly given warning in advance that all of us must be ready to obey ANY instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. All servants of Jehovah will be required to have our loyalty put to the test. Now is that time.

In view of the unusual events heaped upon us by Jehovah’s enemies, the Faithful Slave, who have never failed in their theocratic duty to supply the timely needs of Jehovah’s faithful sheep, is instructing all members of all the world-wide Bethel families to go to their rooms and partake of the contents of the phial each will be given. In view of the extreme spiritual urgency of the times and the knowledge that total obedience is the hallmark of those who will gain Jehovah’s true and ultimate blessing of everlasting life, we are requesting that at seven o’clock GMT, world-wide, after prayers from the committee, you will all partake...”

I could have added the same demand for all publishers to meet at the KH simultaneously world wide to the same end...

This would be a grotesque conclusion... then just why are the GB preparing the minds of the believers to such a paranoid pitch? What would absolute control over their flock do for them? Surely not just for the idle pleasure of exercising absolute power? Where and what could it be leading to?

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Large Increase in Trolley Witnessing

by The Searcher in

when the org implements its bethelite "genocide" and demotes many members of the "worldwide order of special full-time servants of jehovahs witnesses" into lowly regular pioneers, many more trollies will have to be found in order for such ones to rack up their required monthly hours.. how many are actually going to be shocked by this into waking up?

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Half banana

As Jesus said "Above all else, get your hours in".

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Snippet from the weekly meeting of the governing body of JW org, September 2015

by Half banana in

actual in-house accounts (as opposed to the official ones) having been read out.

the chair:.

...so there we have it brothers, were up shit creek!

Half banana

Actual in-house accounts (as opposed to the official ones) having been read out

The chair:

...So there we have it Brothers, we’re up shit creek! This is affecting my (expletive) nerves. Even with all our (expletive) assets and income, the bank has emphatically said, “No more credit”. I’m beginning to think that Jehovah has (expletive) forgotten us! What was it that brother Russell said that when the money ran out that would be the time to stop publishing? I really think we should give this some (expletive) serious thought this morning. First off we gotta stop spending money on fancy things like catering and laundry and get rid of the lower orders in Bethel. Next off, stop all construction projects except our own lakeside retirement village upstate. Stuff the British branch just tell ’em no more money and they can make do on what they’ve got. Sell off the fancy translation houses, that’ll bring in some cash.

If only the brothers would do what we say and (expletive) obey, we wouldn’t be in this fix and they would keep sending in the money. Brothers, just why is it we are in this (expletive) situation?

Bro GB member: It’s the rank and file not sending in the (expletive) money.

Other GB member: I reckon it’s because the brothers are beginning to have twigged what we are up to.

Chair: You know I don’t want any of this to get out but I think we are all coming to the same (expletive) conclusion; “our thing” (cosa nostra in Italian) looks like it‘s had its day here. We can’t keep the end of the world as a credible proposition for forever, the time comes when in this particular business...and God knows it’s a good business... with ‘good’ people...but I think now is the right time to diversify... and get the (expletive) cash into the right accounts before it's too late!

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Revolt Brewing At Headquarter and Different Branches and The Governing Body Is Losing Credibility Among It's Staff

by Brokeback Watchtower in

in my mind i see this as a very real situation developing rapidly world wide as these child molestation pay out become public knowledge and can no longer be denied or kept secret from the r&f.

pretty soon the governing body will be the but of many jokes at headquarters and abroad.

they are being caught red handed while robbing the cookie jar.

Half banana

The JW organisation is by nature revolting!

The problem is that the suckers who support it are indoctrinated each week of their lives to be blindly loyal and not to revolt.